Posts by Open mind

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First post

by thedog1 in

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this is a very strange thing for me to do.

i have been an active witness for over 25 years.

i currently serve as an elder and i conduct the watchtower study.

Open mind

Welcome to JWN thedog1!

You said: "I don't know how I could explain it to others, and when I have to conduct he upcoming study clarifying the 'this generation' teaching, again, what will I do?"

Here's a couple of options for conducting the WT study:

1. Call in sick. If the content of what is in the upcoming WT is so repulsive to you that you can't bear to conduct it, don't. You can only use this card selectively in the months ahead though.

2. If you can stomach going through with the conducting, just conduct the WT study in a fairly lackluster manner. If you're following the Branch guidelines for WT conductors, you're not supposed to be saying very much anyway. Just let your local fellow elders do the unpleasant task of parroting the latest "new light".

As far as explaining it to fellow JWs in a one-on-one setting, how does this sound?

Over the last several decades the maximum length of "this generation" has gradually increased. "Generation", as defined by the F&D Slave was at one time a little less than a human life span. (At least some Armageddon survivors had to be alive and old enough in 1914 to understand the import of world events.) Then it grew a bit longer to an entire human life span. (Some Armageddon survivors just had to be ALIVE in 1914. ) With this latest understanding from the F&D Slave (make sure to throw in lots of F&DS references) "generation" now has grown to longer than a single, very-long, human lifespan. It's one of those deeper Bible truths so I don't think I would recommend trying to explain it to a brand new Return Visit unless they brought it up.

Best of luck on the road ahead.

om

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Service Meeting Part about Sisters Wearing Head Coverings

by TTATTelder in

this week's service meeting had another part about women wearing head coverings.there's already been a post about it, but i would like some thoughts from the forum on the scripture referenced.

11: 3-10. i want to focus on verses 4-6. it says this (nnwt):.

"4)every man who prays or prophesies with something on his head shames his head; 5) but every woman who prays or prophesies+ with her head uncovered shames her head, for it is one and the same as if she were a woman with a shaved head.

Open mind

Hmmm. I'll have to make sure my rebellious wife calls in to the KH tonight so she can mend her Jezebel ways!

On second thought, maybe we'll just catch up on old episodes of Sons of Anarchy instead.

om

p.s. check your PMs in a minute

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Nugget's Latest work in progress (pen and ink)

by cantleave in

still a fair bit to do but i thought it is worth posting.

this is all done with dots no lines at all.. .

Open mind

I have a feeling "Wow" is going to be the predominant word on this thread, for very good reason.

Please give nugget a big high five from all the OM famly. (We're sitting around enjoying a gorgeous Sunday morning sans WT.)

Wish we could afford to fly across the pond next summer, but I think it's going to be at least 2 years before we can afford something like that.

Best,

OM family

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Got Accosted by 2 JW Women While Pumping Gas Yesterday - Weird

by flipper in

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friends

absolutely weird.

minding my own business while pumping gas - this 60 year old short jw lady with fluffed bun styled 60's hair and her 30 year old attractive 5 ' 10 inch jw lady partner came straight up to me as i'm pumping.

they picked the wrong hombre .

Open mind

First off, big ol' High Five to Flipper!!!

So, after reading this, I tried to put myself in the shoes of those JW ladies. The one thing that I would suggest for future use is to actually grab a pen and a piece of paper towel from the gas station and WRITE DOWN "Candace Conti" and hand it to them. Then just say, "If you Google this name, the VERY FIRST hit will be an article in the Huffington Post that tells all about it. Not some website trying to attack the elders or the Watchtower, just the good old mainstream Huffington Post. Think of it as TIME magazine online."

Again, a Grande Cinco Alto to Senor Flipper!!

om

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Today's WT Study (Who is the FDS - Sep 2013)

by ohnightdivine in

please share how your wt study went today...

Open mind

I had a JW from our former congreation approach me at the supermarket today all wide-eyed with enthusiasm. He wanted to know if I had read "the latest Watchtower". (I'm sure he's heard that we no longer attend meetings and wanted to make sure I was up to speed on the latest "New Light".)

I replied something along these lines: "The latest? Yes, I've read it, but I'm guessing you probably mean the Watchtower "we're" studying right now, am I right?"

(Dude had to re-think his terminology and realize that this week's Watchtower has been out there online for about 4 months now.)

So, to kick-start his memory banks I said, "You mean the study article that re-defines who the Faithful and Discreet Slave is, right?"

JW: "Uh, yeah. Wasn't it great how they explained how everything comes together?"

Me: "Sure. You mean how the Faithful & Discreet Slave went from 10,000 to 10 overnight?"

He just kind of did a deer in the headlights expression for me and then shuffled off.

Later on, I told my wife about it and said I should have said: "Oh, you mean the article where they admitted that they were wrong about who the F&D Slave was for the last 100 years?"

*om retracts his JW "snarkotron" and heads for the checkout line*

Cheers!

om

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Fun dinner tonight with ex-JWs

by Hortensia in

jw
friends

i got to meet some real live jwn posters tonight, they stopped here and we met for dinner.

i was nervous about it, but they are a lovely couple, very intelligent and fun.

i am sure i talked too much, it was all so interesting -- swapping stories about our jw histories and how we got out and what we're all doing now.

Open mind

Woo hoo!! Sounds fun!

p.s. You have a PM. Nothing earthshaking, but not worth boring the kind folks perusing this thread.

om

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Fun dinner tonight with ex-JWs

by Hortensia in

jw
friends

i got to meet some real live jwn posters tonight, they stopped here and we met for dinner.

i was nervous about it, but they are a lovely couple, very intelligent and fun.

i am sure i talked too much, it was all so interesting -- swapping stories about our jw histories and how we got out and what we're all doing now.

Open mind

@ Hortensia: "I guess you googled I Am and the St. Germaine folks."

Yep, Ms. OM pulled it up on her phone as we were heading along I-5. At first I thought she was either putting me on or had stumbled onto some satire website. We got a good hour or so of excellent entertainment added into an otherwise very boring drive. Reading about little people living inside Mt. Shasta that can turn invisible and teleport themselves at will was hilarious.

Then again, I suppose talking snakes and donkeys are just about as far-fetched.

om

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Fun dinner tonight with ex-JWs

by Hortensia in

jw
friends

i got to meet some real live jwn posters tonight, they stopped here and we met for dinner.

i was nervous about it, but they are a lovely couple, very intelligent and fun.

i am sure i talked too much, it was all so interesting -- swapping stories about our jw histories and how we got out and what we're all doing now.

Open mind

I have no idea who you could be talking about.

It was great getting to finally meet you Hortensia.

My wife and I would also like to thank you for inadvertently revealing the "Real Truth" to us after so many wasted years in JWism.

The Real Truth is the "I AM" cult of Mt. Shasta!!

I thought you must at least be exaggerating a little bit, but no. My goodness, you are living smack dab in the middle of a very unique bunch of complete loons! Anyway, I'm sure you'll never get sucked into any more mind-control religions, so we're not too worried about your intellectual safety.

As for Queequeg's uncalled-for slandering of our innocent little pooch, I must strenuously object. Their cat shamelessly used her feline wiles on our little guy, even going so far as to nuzzle up to him, when in fact she was placing her scent on him to "mark" him as "taken" from other potential suitors.

All joking aside, it was a genuine pleasure spending some time with you and we'll be sure to give you a call next time we're driving by.

Best,

The OMs and pooch.

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Justitia passes bar!!!

by crmsicl in

yay...my awesome friend justitia just found out last night she passed the bar exam.

regardless of how you may feel about her you gotta admit that is an accomplishment..

Open mind

OK, now that she successfully PASSED the bar, it's time for her to actually go INSIDE the bar and have someone buy her a congratulatory drink!

Cheers!!

om

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2010--2013 Our Kingdom Ministry Update by request!

by Atlantis in

our kingdom ministry request, 2010 to 2013 km update!.request:.nevada, some years ago fokyc was posting the kingdom ministries and i was able to download some of them, but i wasn't able to get them all.

i was wondering if there is a file that has the kingdom ministries from about 2010 and 2011?.reply:.yes, fokyc was very kind in providing us with the kingdom ministries!

we wish him all the best, and i believe he still posts from time to time.

Open mind

Marked!

Thanks Fokyc, Atlantis/Nevada and co-conspirators.

om